Perth Brew Day 9th June - High Gravity Sparge/Chill War :)


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Post by housecat » 5 years ago

Unfortunately I can't make it as I'll be back in Adelaide. Was looking forward to meeting a few of the brewers from over this way but alas, not this time.
Have a great day and make sure you share some pics from the day.

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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

Hey there HC, sorry to hear we won't be getting to meet you :(. It would have been a long way from where you were staying. Next time we'll see if we can get something sorted ;).

A few others are coming along so there'll probably be 10 to 15 brewers. I hope today is not another work day like the last three days. I'll leave a key out in case I'm still working tomorrow morning :lol:.

Mash in at 10am so we can get all the 'testing' side out of the way earlier. Aces, skippy and phMan are arriving early (10 to 11). It should get more relaxing from 12:30 on but feel free to arrive anytime.

If you have a thermometer and want to compare it with some others at mash temp, arrive on the early side.

For entertainment I have tried to line up BobBrews to do some exotic pole dancing via Skype. Haven't heard back as yet - he's probably getting ready.

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Post by NME » 5 years ago

I should be there a bit after 12 :)


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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

Good man! Been too long since we have had a beer!

Captain Boring might be able to make it and lukasfab is joining us as well.


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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

Capatain Boring is in as well :thumbs:.

Still no news on the entertainment from BobBrews. He hasn't been online for 24 hours. If he falls through, Lylo will take his place :P.

Hopefully I have sent everyone the address by now, If not, let me know.

This will be a fairly complex brew day (mainly the mash) because of the extremes we are doing. Should be a great test run for the new BIABacus. Now to weigh out 31 kilos of grain :o.

Most people are arriving somewhere between 10 and 2 but we'll be going until after dark I'm sure - hopefully not the brewing though.

Look forward to seeing you tomorrow ;),
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Post by BobBrews » 5 years ago

PP,

Look for Lylo for entertainment. I will be home packing for the NHC in Seattle USA! Shibolet and his friends will meet me there to party. You will be able to Skype me on your brew day so I will memorize a few jokes! Check out our schedule.

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Post by jlmcgrath » 5 years ago

I would love to make the brewday. Will.see what I can do with the wife and kids

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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

Maybe next time jlm? :lol:...

Just finished pitching, cleaning and counting the silver of course :). Usually on a brew day, I get someone else to brew as I can't multi-task. This means now I don't know who to thank for what, as any food etc I bought for the brew day is still here plus more as well as a few interesting bottles of beer.

The Brewers

A great bunch of brewers turned up including several brewers from this forum as well as some brewers who came to my first brew day in Perth 5 years ago. Quite a few guys aren't forum members here but thanks a heap to uneekwahn for doing the hard yards in the kitchen, supplying and cooking home-made pizzas like a master chef. Hugely appreciated mate :thumbs: :clap: :champ:.

Thanks a heap to AcesHigh for bringing all those sausages which we never even needed to cook thanks to the pizzas. (I hope no one went hungry due to my focus on the brew :dunno:). And I have no idea who brought the other stuff I saw but much appreciated.

Thanks to cptsuds, skippy, lukasfab and Mr Boring for helping with the brewing :peace:. I had Mr Boring working on the brew before he even was given a beer :o.

Sinkas brought along about a kilo of hops to give away - always a generous brewer :peace:.

Also thanks for the help cleaning up at the end of the day. This made a real difference although Barry's couch was pretty wet this morning :lol:.

And thanks to MrBoring for staying around at the end and having a chat once I could relax. Next time, I'm not brewing so I can have a decent chat with everyone. I hate missing out on that!

And thanks to the admin guys. NME travelled a long way to join us and Pat even came back today to help clean up :thumbs:.

The Beers

Aces brought along a yummy keg of 'Hop Hog' which is the recipe we were brewing. Skippy brought along a keg of Dunkel Weizen which my neighbour wanted to take home with him. Lukas had some Heffe Weizen. I know, I know, I usually ban wheat beers from my home but these were pretty good so what can you do? Sinkas brought his usual amazing collection of exotic beers such as a Raspberry Brown Ale and many others.

There will have been more but I never had a chance to slow down and focus on them. Next time ;).

The Experiment

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well, after a week of working late and no sleep on Friday night I was pretty keen to see the results of the "multi-experiment". Even managed to get the 15kg grain bills which had to be made up of about ten different grains to be within 8 grams of each other.

And didn't that prove to be a waste of time? :evil:.

The high gravity part of the experiment was a disaster :argh:. I had never struck such a high gravity grain bill before and stupidly worked off the standard strike water temperature formula calculator which I shouldn't have done as it always gives a too high answer for me. So brew 1 had an initial temp of 71C instead of 66C - lol! Diluted with 8 litres of water but no change until suddenly it dropped to 61 C. So, right from the start that side of the experiment was doomed. It got worse though :)...

Twenty to thirty minutes into the mash on Brew 1, trying to raise the temp from 61 to 66, it suddenly jumped from 65 to 76C :scratch: :think: :interesting:. Why? We finally realised that the probe must have been faulty and was getting stuck.

So that side of the experiment was a total fail.

The weirdest thing though was that Brew 2 which had less water than brew 1 had a pre-boil gravity 20 points lower than Brew 1. Wtf?

Anyway we evened out the worts so they had the same gravity and then diluted the worts so we had our desired pre-boil gravity. The experiment now was down to just chill versus no-chill experiment using pure BIAB and a pure no-sparge mash.

Pitched my two brews this afternoon when temps between the no-chill and chill had equalized. Volumes are the same.

Tasting the Results

We'll meet up again in about 4 weeks and taste the results. After that we'll head down to Fremantle for a bit of a beer tasting. I'll start a new thread on that closer to the day.

Thanks a heap to all of those that came along. Great to see or meet you and I'll look forward to being able to have a decent chat when we taste the results as no brewing will be involved :party: :drink:.

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Post by BobBrews » 5 years ago

PP,

Sounds like you had a blast. The brew day seemed to go about like mine does. All the plans go out the window the first time something goes wrong! I am sure the beer will be great but no technical data to process. As long as you have friends around you the brew day party is a success.

I brewed that day as well. I remembered some pH test strips that I had just bought on a whim? I was astonished that my water had a pH of 6.2 (or more). Now I have to go and read about pH and it's effect on some beer types? Even a nut case like me has to do research once in a while!
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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

I did enjoy myself Bob but not as much as I could have if we hadn't been experimenting. I hate not having enough time to chat with everyone properly as you miss out on so much. Any experiments I do from now on, I'll make sure I only do with one or two brewers. And, any open brew days I do from now on, I'll make sure are simple, single batches with a new brewer doing all the brewing. That way, I'll maximise my own enjoyment :drink:.

It was very enjoyable though despite the experiment. The experienced brewers were able to laugh at the inevitable intrusion of 'Murphy's Law" and the newer brewers had the grace to realise we were trying to do something very complicated. Good stuff all round :peace:.

Annoyed that the experimental side failed on the high gravity/sparge bit as I was really very interested to see the results :sad:.

Looking forward though to the tasting of the chilled/no-chilled bit as I'll be able to fully relax then and enjoy my fellow brewers' company to the max :drink:.

My kegs are at least 30 litres lighter today so I only have to work on a few kegs in the next few weeks to make room for the two new batches from yesterday. This is always a good sign ;). Phew!, as I really had no plan for how to fit yesterday's brews into my fridge if we didn't drink lots yesterday!

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Post by BobBrews » 5 years ago

PP,

Yesterday I to a crack at my chill/no chilled beers. I did a double batch and ran the first half into my cube and the rest I immersion chilled. I couldn't tell them apart? But I have no taste buds so I will let the experts at the AHC test them on air! The beer is still a bit raw and needs a month or two to fully develop but they will do in a pinch. Shibolet has his beer ready and we will be in Seattle in a week.

I am happy that you can laugh at "Murphy's Law" because that's the price we have to pay for "Brewing on the edge" Sometimes it doesn't work out and we have to drink our mistakes! Hey that's not a bad hobby! Not like a doctor that has to bury his mistakes? Brew on brother!
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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

Hahaha!

Can you start a new thread on your AHC adventures sooner rather than later? Maybe, "AHC - Bob Brew's and shibolet's adventure."? I don't want any of your adventures being diluted here or anywhere else.

Please start a new thread as I can't wait to read it!!!!

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Post by Aces high » 5 years ago

Yes it was a really good day, except for a few issues with thermometers which screwed up our mashing. We all got to taste plenty of different beers to taste.

Apparently I rambling on something fierce when the wifee drove me home.

I pitched my 2 batches yesterday evening and they're both bubbling away nicely. It will be interesting to see how they turn out with the lack of attention and poor brewmanship we managed to perform on the day :think:

Pat and I are definitely better at socialising than brewing when there is a group of people around.

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Post by Aces high » 5 years ago

Was there any photos taken PP?


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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

You were in charge of photos. Did you forget? :lol:

I did get my camera out before anyone arrived to find it with a totally flat battery. Put it on the charger and then promptly forgot it. Mate, my brain was massively over multi-tasked :argh:.

Heading down to the Norfolk with sinkas tonight for a, 'Meet the Maker,' session - (Mountain Goat Brewery). With this storm coming in though it might be a, "Meet my Maker,' session :o.

Btw, when do you want me to dry hop these fellas? (I'm thinking Thursday for mine).
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Post by Aces high » 5 years ago

PistolPatch wrote:You were in charge of photos. Did you forget? :lol:

I did get my camera out before anyone arrived to find it with a totally flat battery. Put it on the charger and then promptly forgot it. Mate, my brain was massively over multi-tasked :argh:.

Heading down to the Norfolk with sinkas tonight for a, 'Meet the Maker,' session - (Mountain Goat Brewery). With this storm coming in though it might be a, "Meet my Maker,' session :o.

Btw, when do you want me to dry hop these fellas? (I'm thinking Thursday for mine).
Hold off till the weekend and I will swing down and grab the hops for mine. Hopefully it wont be raining and I can get the bike out.
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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

Excellent :thumbs:.

Northern Brewer might be over here from America in about 3 weeks so we might be able to organise the 'official' tasting for around then.

Wonder if lukasfab got home okay? Have heard from everyone else. Where are you lukas????
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Post by sinkas » 5 years ago

Thanks to PP for putting on the brew day,
sorry I was so late and weant able to provide any brewing assistance whatsoever.
thansks to the guy who brough along the Limes, very nice

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Post by Hippy » 5 years ago

Sounds like a ripper of a day guys. I really regret not being able to make it as I was in a rush to get things done at work before the bad weather hit. Maybe next time.


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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

sinkas wrote: sorry I was so late and weant able to provide any brewing assistance whatsoever.
Don't worry mate, Aces was there early but wasn't much help either :lol: :lol: :lol:.
Hippy wrote:Maybe next time.
Just waiting to hear from northern_brewer and then we can set a date for the tasting so hopefully you'll be able to make it to that Hippy :peace:.
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Post by Aces high » 5 years ago

PistolPatch wrote:
sinkas wrote: sorry I was so late and weant able to provide any brewing assistance whatsoever.
Don't worry mate, Aces was there early but wasn't much help either :lol: :lol: :lol:.
Hippy wrote:Maybe next time.
Just waiting to hear from northern_brewer and then we can set a date for the tasting so hopefully you'll be able to make it to that Hippy :peace:.
Yeah i was useless in the brewing stakes, but i ....naw i got nuthin. I was useless, got heavily inebriated, talked brewing shite for hours and got home with 45L of beer, the perfect day in my books :champ:
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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

I thought you drank 45 L while you were here? :lol:

(Aces was actually great fun to brew with and was far from useless). I hope this beer is awful because there is no way we'll ever be able to replicate it :?. Btw Aces, my brews are at 1.020 and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't go lower due to the thermometer problem.

Tasting the Results

I'm hoping Northern Brewer is still coming to Perth and I should send him a PM but before I do, say we meet up here on a Saturday (probably the 30th), I'm thinking we can have a tasting here for say 1.5 - 2 hours starting at say 2pm and then head into Freo to taste some paddles.

Does that sound okay?

Sinkas, where apart from the Sail can we have paddles?
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Re: Perth Brew Day 9th June - High Gravity Sparge/Chill War

Post by sinkas » 5 years ago

Maybe the monk if they havent closed early


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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

Hahahaha! We'll book ahead ;). I'm trying to remember if Clancy's does paddles?
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Post by Lylo » 5 years ago

Paddles? Some kind of OZ code?
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