Tasting a 115 Year-Old Beer (That is not a typo)

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Tasting a 115 Year-Old Beer (That is not a typo)

Post by PistolPatch » 7 months ago

Today I had that experience. I'm busting to write about it but, I've been up for twenty hours and, would be fascinated to hear what you think a 115 year-old beer would smell/taste like. (It was a 1902 "King's Ale" supplied by our member, sinkas.)
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Re: Tasting a 115 Year-Old Beer (That is not a typo)

Post by ShorePoints » 7 months ago

My guess is:
1. Flat, as in not carbonated
2. Assuming the container was glass, the taste should still be of grain as malt, but earthier. Not light and crisp, but more rounded like an old ale.
3. Still has a little bitterness, but mostly gone - tastes as bitter as ~17 Tinseth IBU.

Probably totally wrong, but it is the first guess.


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Post by Scott » 7 months ago

Wow! Now you've got my curiosity going. Be sure to fill us in once you are back and rested...


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Post by Streamer » 7 months ago

Ok, I'm definitely following this thread. My wife has some 14 month old Coronas I've been thinking of throwing out, but maybe I'll wait :think:
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Re: Tasting a 115 Year-Old Beer (That is not a typo)

Post by PistolPatch » 7 months ago

Sorry I haven't written the following details sooner - one of those weeks :interesting:

History of 1902 King's Ale (Bass Barley Wine)

"A lead sealed and original English pint of 1902 Bass King's Ale. This famous brew is a batch of Bass No. 1 which was started by Edward VII during a visit to the brewery in 1902. This is the very first Barley Wine to ever be mass produced. This beer started a tradition in British brewing in which all brewers attempted to follow. This beer is extremely hard to find and checks in at around 10.5% abv."

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My Impressions

For me, I found this a wonderful psychological experience - one I'll never forget. I think the oldest wine I've had might have been 40 years old so, a 115 year old beer :o! No matter what the end result, opening a 115 year old bottle is a once in a lifetime experience. I expected, and it would not have worried me, that one or more of the following would occur: the process of removing the lead seal would crack the old bottle; the cork would not be able to be pulled, it would have to be mined; we might have to run from the room once the cork was mined due to some horrific smell... I had low expectations of the beer being drinkable.

So, what happened?

Firstly, I would have been a nervous wreck even handling such an antique but sinkas was cool as, working on a rough-hewn table (I would have had rubber or foam down) to open the lead seal. It looked like he had done it a hundred times. Not sure what he used to get the cork out as there was quite a crowd and I missed that bit though sinkas might have some pics or vid. The cork came out black and whole :cry:

No one had to run from the room.

At this point, for me, it was a bit like a little kid at Christmas, hoping for a bicycle, expecting a book but receiving a motorbike! The bottle hadn't cracked, the cork came out whole and no lethal gases were expelled! This already sacred experience had now risen further. We then smelled the cork...

Let's come back to that and look at colour and carbonation first - black but not murky, no carbonation.

The aroma: An experience in itself. Let's say a lager has a low aroma potency, a whisky has an extreme aroma potency and a great IPA has moderate aroma potency. This had moderate aroma potency, not assaulting on the nostril but also easy to identify aromas. What were the aromas? Raw tobacco (like you smell in a pouch of tobacco). I remember even thinking of a brand of tobacco - sinkas might remember. Also aromas of molasses and cognac.

The flavour: Like a liqueur with muscat overtones. I'm not skilled at barley wines/liquers or muscats but no off-flavours. This is not only drinkable, it's worth examination, slow appreciation and reflection. I'd like wine and fortified wine experts to taste this. I think they would be very impressed.

The beer was not thin nor was it syrupy so maybe moderate mouth-feel?

I'll ask sinkas to reply here to add to or correct my impressions (maybe even more pics!). Mind you, no one can correct/change that I'll never forget having this experience.

Thanks sinkas and happy birthday ;)
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Post by Jamato » 7 months ago

WOW
what can be said
that is like going back in time 100 years.
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Re: Tasting a 115 Year-Old Beer (That is not a typo)

Post by mally » 7 months ago

Did anyone get in touch with Bass? They may have had some interest, just wondered.
Also, maybe Charlie Bamforth, as he used to work at Bass in the 70's IIRC?

I haven't checked but there is a website called Barclay Perkins (run by Ron Pattison), he tends to cover a lot of info about historical beers, maybe there is some info on it there too?

Is it a secret where Sinkas obtained it from?
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Re: Tasting a 115 Year-Old Beer (That is not a typo)

Post by PistolPatch » 7 months ago

It certainly was "wonder-full" Jamato!

mally, spam PM sinkas until he answers :lol:. He did spend a long time looking for one in good condition though and I believe he finally found this one two years ago on eBay.
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