co2 Tank

Assumes carbonation of flat beer is done using a forced or gradual injection of CO2.
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Post by zapzapper » 5 years ago

Can you place the co2 tank inside the refrigerator that you have set up for your kegs or does it need to set out side of it or does it make any difference where you place it inside or out?

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Post by jakethesnake559 » 5 years ago

Hi Roger, in my opinion you are better off keeping it out of the fridge if you can. Condensation and moisture in the fridge can potentially damage your regulator. Cheers, Jake.

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Post by BobBrews » 5 years ago

zapzapper,
Obviously you save on inside space by placing your C02 outside your refrigerator. The regulates are made for use with moisture in mind. Having the tank on the outside has two big problems. One, people play with the knobs. They know better but they do it anyway. Two, less skilled people will puncture the freon lines and ruin the fridge while try to drill a hole (that may leak). I have two tanks. One is in the fridge active and the other is full (hopefully) and spare. I have a four way distribution valve inside for three working taps and a "Next up" keg. I also have a second valve that is for high pressure to get kegs started or flooding a keg pryer to filling.
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Post by PistolPatch » 5 years ago

I've never actually heard of anyone keeping their CO2 bottle in the fridge. The only reason I can think of for doing this is if, like Bob, you lived in a very cold climate. In other words, the fridge would actually keep your bottle warm!

Have I got this right or is there another reason to keep your bottle in the fridge???

As for drilling holes in your fridges, before you drill, open the fridge door and let the fridge run for 15 to 30 minutes (maybe forever if you have the same winter as BobBrews - lol). After this time you can 'feel' the sides of your fridge. You will notice hot lines. These hot lines tell you where the cooling pipes are. Don't drill there!

Even when you do drill, use a small drill bit and just penetrate the outer metal skin. Once you are through, use wire to 'feel around' before you go all the way through with a bigger drill bit or hole-saw.

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Post by BobBrews » 5 years ago

PP,

I keep the tank in the fridge for convenience and nothing more. I can re-purpose the fridge back to a food holder rather than a beer holder! I can fit five kegs plus the tank now! I don't drink "That" much beer!

For drilling in a fridge I remember something about mixing up some powder (flour?) with water and painting the mixture on the side of the fridge. The colder (or hotter) temperatures will cause a pattern of the lines to appear on the wall? It's on the web somewhere in converting a refrigerator?
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Post by zapzapper » 5 years ago

thanks for all the help i had it inside a few years back when i was doing extract and now i am starting up again and was thinking about putting it on the outside for more room i have built me a all grain biab brewer so what u are saying that the coils are on the sides of the ref. too that is where that i was going to drill the hole for the tube to go thru are thay also in the front door of the ref. too if so i guess i was lucky when i drilled for the tap because i was going to add some more taps to the front door too

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Post by joshua » 5 years ago

Good Day Rodger(zapzapper), All "Fridges" I have worked on have NO coils in the door.

Many older, smaller, Fridges have most of the coils inside toward the top, around the freezer section and very few toward the bottom half.

Sometimes you can remove the Inside Plastic pieces and see if there are any coils behind them.
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Post by shibolet » 5 years ago

my co2 tank is in my keg fridge. it's fine that way.
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Post by stux » 5 years ago

Never actually heard of anyone having an issue with the c02 bottle in the fridge
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Post by hashie » 5 years ago

My CO2 is in the fridge as well, no probs.
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Post by Ziggybrew » 5 years ago

First off, I keep my CO2 in the fridge because my wife uses the fridge as a spare back-up and would hurt me bad if I went drilling holes. However, I read the owners manual of a kegerator that I want to purchase and it claims that you use twice the amount of CO2 when it's cold than when at room temperature. So they have a bracket on the back and a hole for the line. At least that's what they say anyway.
Me personally have no issues because I bought a second CO2 tank to switch out when it's gone. I have no clue if I'm using too much CO2 or not. I just enjoy the beer! One thing is for sure, if you have a gauge that shows "CO2 remaining" it is useless inside the fridge.
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Post by shibolet » 5 years ago

Ziggybrew wrote:One thing is for sure, if you have a gauge that shows "CO2 remaining" it is useless inside the fridge.
Ziggy, why is that?
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Post by Lylo » 5 years ago

Your co2 tank will always read quite low when cold.
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Post by Ziggybrew » 5 years ago

shibolet wrote:
Ziggybrew wrote:One thing is for sure, if you have a gauge that shows "CO2 remaining" it is useless inside the fridge.
Ziggy, why is that?
Don't know why for sure. When I first used my dual tap set-up from Midwest Supply I thought the gauge was broke because it showed empty. Midwest said that was normal and they only work at room temperature, not when inside the fridge. I guess the gauge is not calibrated to the density of cold CO2 on a 5 pound bottle. :scratch:
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Post by Lylo » 5 years ago

The gas takes less space when cold and thus shows a lower pressure?I know when I take my tank out of the chest the pressure on the gauge always goes up.
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Post by BobBrews » 5 years ago

I was told to put my tank in the freezer before taking it to be filled. The gas took less space when cold so you get more when you fill it? My guy weigh's my tank before so I guess that's not true?
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Post by Hippy » 5 years ago

That's right BobBrews you will get more gas in a cold tank as it takes less room. One of the places I get mine filled will leave it in their coolroom overnight while decanting to maximise the amount of gas that you can put in there. With my larger 6 kilo bottle they reckon you will be lucky to get 4 kilos in there at room temp before it is full.

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Post by Ziggybrew » 5 years ago

Hippy wrote:That's right BobBrews you will get more gas in a cold tank as it takes less room. One of the places I get mine filled will leave it in their coolroom overnight while decanting to maximise the amount of gas that you can put in there. With my larger 6 kilo bottle they reckon you will be lucky to get 4 kilos in there at room temp before it is full.
I'm screwed, my gas guy has me drop it off and pick it up the next afternoon when they get to it. :headhit:
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Post by thughes » 5 years ago

Ziggybrew wrote: I'm screwed, my gas guy has me drop it off and pick it up the next afternoon when they get to it. :headhit:
Have you ever tried to expedite the process by offering a few bottles of homebrew in exchange for "fill while you wait" service? :idiot:
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Post by BobBrews » 5 years ago

I use a fire extinguisher guy to fill it. He drops what he is doing for me. $5 for a 5lb refill! I called about a regular tank refill place and they said "next day, maybe"!
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